tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584699251999622098.post8306535046885289958..comments2024-03-16T09:24:45.474+01:00Comments on 22 Billion Energy Slaves: Up the Amazon on a CamelJason Heppenstallhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17886109260870545074noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584699251999622098.post-35475569645280332512018-03-21T07:23:20.546+01:002018-03-21T07:23:20.546+01:00yeah, we need to teach ourself and our kids to lov...yeah, we need to teach ourself and our kids to love earth as much as we love ourself and start with gardeningCara Membuat NPK Organik Cairhttps://goo.gl/KUVWF4noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584699251999622098.post-29260175244919946362013-06-13T20:53:38.211+02:002013-06-13T20:53:38.211+02:00In fact if we want to feed the world for future ge...In fact if we want to feed the world for future generations it is ONLY through organic agriculture and especially organic horticulture that we can do it. Agribusiness is non-sustainable.<br /><br />Following the permaculture principal and using techniques such as forest gardening, vertical gardening and synergistic (no dig) gardening - we can not only feed the world, but we can regenerate the world. Now that is not a word you'll ever here from the mouths of the giants of biotech and agribusiness.fairplay23https://www.blogger.com/profile/02998268487962617229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584699251999622098.post-35909713139347134052013-06-13T09:20:32.586+02:002013-06-13T09:20:32.586+02:00@ED - Firstly the middle East has become deseert d...@ED - Firstly the middle East has become deseert due to farming techniques such as poor animal management and ploughing. We were doing that before the industrial revolution, and not just in the Middle East but places like china. Tractors just mean we do it quicker.<br /><br />Secondly the "claim" is backed up by studies and reports that have been validated by organisations such as the World Health Organisation and the UN, the longest comparitive study of it's kind (30 years) also backs this up. Also our post war "green revolution" is highly dependent on petrol and exits purely due to petrol. Which is why food prices go up when petrol goes up, which is not a good idea I think.<br /><br />Also we actually grow enough food for 12 billion but throw half of it away, in Africa for example 30% of what they grow rots in the fields, mainly due to cheap subsidised imports when the IMF won't allow African states to subsidise their farmers and secondly because they are growing crops that do not have a local market and the infrastructures are not developed. In Europe it is not unusual for a supermarket to reject 50% of the produce it recieves for cosmetic reasons.<br /><br />This is the link for the original article, there are many links that explain more. But anyone who thinks that we canno feed the world organically really needs to wake up, not only can we feed the world, but we can deal with a lot of it's problems.<br /><br />@Anonymous - no he obviously hasn't ;)<br /><br />https://network23.org/evolutionarytrip/fairplay23https://www.blogger.com/profile/02998268487962617229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584699251999622098.post-54215803100681668532013-06-13T09:15:19.755+02:002013-06-13T09:15:19.755+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.fairplay23https://www.blogger.com/profile/02998268487962617229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584699251999622098.post-75860679186554293442013-06-12T19:46:56.207+02:002013-06-12T19:46:56.207+02:00I take it you've never come across Joel Salati...I take it you've never come across Joel Salatin, Vandana Shiva, Mark Shepard, Darren Doherty, Sepp Holtzer, Jeff Lawton etc etc.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5584699251999622098.post-65593431065574367242013-06-11T22:50:10.056+02:002013-06-11T22:50:10.056+02:00I mostly agree with the essay and hate to nick pic...I mostly agree with the essay and hate to nick pick. There are two instances of somewhat sloppy thinking.<br /><br />First, the desertfication of the Middle East dates to before the Industrial Revolution. Its usually associated with the Mongol invasions, though may have happned earlier, but it certainly was in place before the 18th century.<br /><br />Second and more seriously, the claim that we can feed "everyone" through organic farming methods is contestable. Pre-industrial agriculture never had to feed a planetary population of more than a billion people. It would be great if we could feed seven billion plus without GMOs and other facets of industrial agriculture, but its important to face the fact that we probably can't, though by encouraging monoculture modern agricultural techniques certainly make matters worse.<br /><br />The post World War II population explosion spurred the Green Revolution in an effort to prevent famine from having all these extra mouths at once, which in true Malthusian style spurred a larger population explosion. Its going to be difficult to walk this one back.Ednoreply@blogger.com